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Post by Veronica on May 3, 2005 16:53:19 GMT -5
yeah... i'm gay also... but i'm not fully out of the closet... though i dare not mention anything on my thoughts on takeshi's orientation or i'll get blown away with a lot of comments! ;D you can mention it all you want, but the speculation is a moot point and has no basis in reality. takeshi isn't gay, no matter how much someone might want him to be or wish him to be in their fantasies. there is ZERO evidence or behavior pointing to takeshi being gay. in fact, fans who really keep up on articles and interviews with takeshi from over the years know the truth. it's a lot less shocking than people would believe... honestly, this topic is so incredibly tired and played out.
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Post by MissCarlos on May 3, 2005 17:31:40 GMT -5
There's no proof that he is or isn't. No one knows. He may or may not be. We'll never know until he says so.
He may even be bisexual. No one knows. And does it matter? No.
Until someone can give proof about his sexuality, it's going to remain a mystery. Mysteries are nice at times.
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Post by Veronica on May 3, 2005 17:41:08 GMT -5
There's no proof that he is or isn't. No one knows. He may or may not be. We'll never know until he says so. He may even be bisexual. No one knows. And does it matter? No. Until someone can give proof about his sexuality, it's going to remain a mystery. Mysteries are nice at times. it's not a mystery, miss c. there is PLENTY of proof (like from takeshi's own mouth, unless we're to believe he's a blatant liar) that he likes girls. there is NO proof that he likes men. period. that's all i'm saying. i'm not saying that it matters or not. that is a different topic entirely. i'm saying the constant speculation is tired and played out because there is nothing based in reality to point to this man being gay or bi-sexual.
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Post by Sobered on May 4, 2005 14:52:41 GMT -5
As a gay Canuck of European heritage, all this talk about girls could be just a cover. After all, where did these gay rumours start? The pics from Cannes speak volumes. And the gigalo club? Are the gigalos lying? Where there's smoke there's fire.
Not that it matters either way. We appreciate him as an actor. He could be straight, bi, transgendered, a cross-dressing serial killer for all I care. So long as he keeps making good movies ....
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Post by Swellboy on May 4, 2005 15:00:12 GMT -5
I'm going with what MissCarlos just posted on this topic (which would be fine with me if it ended, as it does seem rather old and tired out ). Sometimes it's nice for a mystery to remain just that. But, ultimately, mystery or not, I don't care what TK's sexual orientation is anyway. It doesn't change the way I think and feel about him. I suspect this is the case for most of his fans (if they are *true* fans of TK) here as well...
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Post by zach on May 4, 2005 16:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by zach on May 4, 2005 16:18:50 GMT -5
yeah lets just all stop talking about this...
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Post by Veronica on May 4, 2005 17:27:37 GMT -5
As a gay Canuck of European heritage, all this talk about girls could be just a cover. After all, where did these gay rumours start? The pics from Cannes speak volumes. And the gigalo club? Are the gigalos lying? Where there's smoke there's fire. Not that it matters either way. We appreciate him as an actor. He could be straight, bi, transgendered, a cross-dressing serial killer for all I care. So long as he keeps making good movies .... you're kidding, right? takeshi was on a balcony in PLAIN VIEW of everyone, with a friend of 10 years, doing nothing at ALL untoward and you say this speaks volumes? this man has been working with takeshi for a decade, so why have they not been "caught" before this supposed tryst in cannes? omg, it's all so stupid! and the ONE article/blurb in the press about the gigolo club? sure, newspapers and gossip columns NEVER lie or invent things to sell papers. as for saying that takeshi's "talk of girls" being a cover...you think takeshi is a liar, then? and everyone around him, too? like i said before, is it a mass-scale plot? it's pretty obvious that those of you who ARE gay/bisexual are the only fans stuck on this notion that his sexuality is "a mystery" and that "he could be covering" and constantly making reference to "the balcony". i agree that it doesn't matter, but i also think that there are certain posters who cannot let the "gay discussion" lie fallow for very long. as soon as people stop posting to these old, tired, played out threads someone "new" comes along and brings the subject up AGAIN. how convenient.
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Post by MissCarlos on May 4, 2005 17:30:43 GMT -5
it's pretty obvious that those of you who ARE gay/bisexual are the only fans stuck on this notion that his sexuality is "a mystery" and that "he could be covering" and constantly making reference to "the balcony". You are WRONG. Just because I am bisexual does NOT mean that I want him to be. He can be whatever he wants to be. It doesn't change anything.
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Post by Veronica on May 4, 2005 17:51:34 GMT -5
You are WRONG. Just because I am bisexual does NOT mean that I want him to be. He can be whatever he wants to be. It doesn't change anything. miss c, i did NOT say "want him to be". please re-read my remarks if necessary.
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Post by zach on May 4, 2005 18:02:03 GMT -5
wow... obvisouly it does matter to you veronica, about takeshi's sexuality because yer attacking it like crazy! you say you agree it doesn't matter but it really looks like you want him to be straight and that there is no possible way for him to be gay.
we are just looking at all the possibilities and it's def. not because we are gay/bisexual and we have this whole notion thing... i bet a straight person would bring it up also, there's no escaping it, the question will come one way or another.
but actually, in my opinion, this stuff is personal and really shouldn't be talked about, if takeshi were on this message board would he like to see his fans talking about his personal life and what he might or might not be? if you think about it, it's not really a positive topic... all that arises from it is anger and an infinite debate. lets lay off the subject and stop assuming things based on little information...
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Post by Veronica on May 4, 2005 18:14:32 GMT -5
wow... obvisouly it does matter to you veronica, about takeshi's sexuality because yer attacking it like crazy! you say you agree it doesn't matter but it really looks like you want him to be straight and that there is no possible way for him to be gay. we are just looking at all the possibilities and it's def. not because we are gay/bisexual and we have this whole notion thing... i bet a straight person would bring it up also, there's no escaping it, the question will come one way or another. but actually, in my opinion, this stuff is personal and really shouldn't be talked about, if takeshi were on this message board would he like to see his fans talking about his personal life and what he might or might not be? if you think about it, it's not really a positive topic... all that arises from it is anger and an infinite debate. lets lay off the subject and stop assuming things based on little information... actually, zach i wasn't going to say this before, out of politeness to you: but YOU are the one who brought it up after being a member for barely 2 whole days, despite the fact that there are already dozens of posts both in favor of "he might be gay" and "he's definitely straight". these threads are not lacking in opinions about what we all think, yet that didn't stop you within 48 hours of your first post seeking out this very topic and baiting others to comment on it. in fact, you posted about it TWICE, even though the topic had already been dead for 2 MONTHS. and next time, think before you accuse a member of "attacking" just because that member is expressing an opinion. there is as much possibility for takeshi to be gay as there is for ANYONE on the planet to be, from the pope to the dalai lama. my issue is and always will be "why takeshi?" and yes, i WILL defend takeshi at all costs when people make accusations about him that don't add up. sorry if you or anyone else doesn't like that.
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Post by zach on May 4, 2005 18:24:19 GMT -5
aright... i'm ending it... no more... i dont like this subject anymore... mmmk? sorry
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Post by zach on May 4, 2005 18:31:18 GMT -5
So Zach, speaking as a gay asian male to a group of mostly females, what does your "gaydar" say? I'm a straight female not from Asia, so I'm clueless to guess. what do you mean im confused
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Post by Swellboy on May 4, 2005 18:41:46 GMT -5
Veronica, maybe you just need to take a chill pill or something...Oy! There's feeling passion and conviction about something, then there's, well, going just over the top...Really now, let's let this topic be left alone, which is what Zach has been saying besides me. If I remember right, Zach's posts were pretty innocent on this particular topic thread, which he seemed to initially come to while navigating around this whole forum as a brand new member. If any "attacking" is going on here, it's by you to a few other members, Veronica. Chill; go take deep breaths, whatever you need to do to *chill*. And, no, I am not intending to put you down, and sorry in advance if I'm sounding that way, because that's not my intention here. I'm just trying to point out that I think you're going a bit overboard with this particular topic. Hey, we all get heated up over something or other now and then. In this instance, it sure seems to be you, Veronica, who has gotten their pants in a bunch, so to speak. No need to keep "defending" TK. I think we can all agree that we're here because we all think *very* highly of him, whatever his sexual orientation. Now, please don't feel the need to blast me in your next post, Veronica. You say a lot of neat things in many of your posts on this forum. Deep breaths, remember? <*Now, I'm running to put on a rain coat, helmet, and hold up a garbage can lid in preparation for a possible barrage of having rotten tomatoes thrown at me.*> Peace and Calm, Swellboy
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